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FifiKitty
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/artic...20islam_1095961

Isaak impressed by fun Yusuf Islam

Rocker/actor CHRIS ISAAK is convinced he'll stun music fans when his interview with YUSUF ISLAM airs on his new TV show THE CHRIS ISAAK HOUR - because the Muslim convert isn't as "stuffy" as his reputation suggests.

Isaak was thrilled when the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens agreed to make a rare TV appearance on his show - and he was stunned when the Muslim convert agreed to sing old hit I Love My Dog to his manager's pooch.

Isaak says, "His first hit was I Love My Dog and I said, 'Will you play some of it for the dog?' - and he did!

"I think people have this idea that Cat Stevens is very stuffy or uptight because he's a religious guy now, and so you can't joke about anything. He's funny and he was a lot of fun to have on the show."

And bachelor Isaak admits he learned a thing or two about marriage from his guest: "I asked him if his mother picked out his wife and when he gave the answer he was pretty legitimate, because we have all these ideas about how you're supposed to pick a wife or be in love - but mostly they don't work. Let's face it, half the marriages go down the toilet.

"I said to Cat, 'There might be more marriages that worked if people went to their parents and asked them, 'What do you think of these people?' Nowadays, people go, 'What time does the bar close? You want to get married?'"

24.02.2009 07:06

I guess Dorothy should be choosing the future soulmate. laugh.gif

wildflower
How do I get in touch with Dorothy? hee!
stuff & nonsense
QUOTE (FifiKitty @ Feb 25 2009, 05:01 AM) *
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/artic...20islam_1095961

Isaak impressed by fun Yusuf Islam

Rocker/actor CHRIS ISAAK is convinced he'll stun music fans when his interview with YUSUF ISLAM airs on his new TV show THE CHRIS ISAAK HOUR - because the Muslim convert isn't as "stuffy" as his reputation suggests.

Isaak was thrilled when the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens agreed to make a rare TV appearance on his show - and he was stunned when the Muslim convert agreed to sing old hit I Love My Dog to his manager's pooch.

Isaak says, "His first hit was I Love My Dog and I said, 'Will you play some of it for the dog?' - and he did!

"I think people have this idea that Cat Stevens is very stuffy or uptight because he's a religious guy now, and so you can't joke about anything. He's funny and he was a lot of fun to have on the show."

And bachelor Isaak admits he learned a thing or two about marriage from his guest: "I asked him if his mother picked out his wife and when he gave the answer he was pretty legitimate, because we have all these ideas about how you're supposed to pick a wife or be in love - but mostly they don't work. Let's face it, half the marriages go down the toilet.

"I said to Cat, 'There might be more marriages that worked if people went to their parents and asked them, 'What do you think of these people?' Nowadays, people go, 'What time does the bar close? You want to get married?'"

24.02.2009 07:06

I guess Dorothy should be choosing the future soulmate. laugh.gif


Alright, well there has been a pretty deafening silence over this on this board.

All I can say is that Isaak must be easily impressed. Fun?? Funny peculiar more like, and that's being charitable.

I wouldn't watch this if you paid me. How could he?? (CI) Bloody hell.
ForeverBlueKoolaid
QUOTE (stuff & nonsense @ Feb 26 2009, 01:08 AM) *
Alright, well there has been a pretty deafening silence over this on this board.

All I can say is that Isaak must be easily impressed. Fun?? Funny peculiar more like, and that's being charitable.

I wouldn't watch this if you paid me. How could he?? (CI) Bloody hell.

Oh get over IT.

stuff & nonsense
QUOTE (ForeverBlueKoolaid @ Mar 1 2009, 01:26 PM) *
Oh get over IT.


I think I'm old and ugly enough to decide these matters for myself and I will not get over Chris Isaak sucking up to Cat Stevens, thanks anyway.

Did Chris really write this?

Two thumbs down and if I had any more thumbs they'd be down too sad.gif


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-isaak/...o_b_185107.html


senayr
I don't know much about Cat Stevens, but I've just finished watching the show and was impressed by the quality of the interview. It wasn't about religion, but his journey from starting to play music, his illness, his marriage and how music re-entered his life. (sorry religion was touched on, but wasn't the main focus of the interview).

Chris was a wonderful interviewer and of the episodes I've seen (all except Trisha Yearwood) this was by far the best and I loved how Chris's and Cat's voices blended in so well - duet on next cd please laugh.gif

stuff & nonsense
QUOTE (senayr @ Apr 11 2009, 11:16 AM) *
I don't know much about Cat Stevens, but I've just finished watching the show and was impressed by the quality of the interview. It wasn't about religion, but his journey from starting to play music, his illness, his marriage and how music re-entered his life. (sorry religion was touched on, but wasn't the main focus of the interview).

Chris was a wonderful interviewer and of the episodes I've seen (all except Trisha Yearwood) this was by far the best and I loved how Chris's and Cat's voices blended in so well - duet on next cd please laugh.gif


Plenty of reading here, just for starters, if anyone is interested enough. It's just one person's view, of course.

http://markhumphrys.com/iran.html


Personal statement here:

http://www.markhumphrys.com/

Personally I wouldn't touch Cat Stevens with a barge pole ("creepy" is a good word to use) and I am quite sure he'd hate me rolleyes.gif I think I still have, somewhere, Cat Stevens Greatest hits from back in the 70s ... though I didn't buy it myself. We listened to it, there were some pretty good songs on it, but I wasn't interested enough to get any full LPs of his. It was just a case of being seen to be up to date with being trendy with music more than anything else laugh.gif That is something I couldn't give a rat's about these days.

I trust that you jest about Isaak putting a duet with this man on a record? unsure.gif blink.gif






kazz227
QUOTE (stuff & nonsense @ Apr 11 2009, 01:14 PM) *
Plenty of reading here, just for starters, if anyone is interested enough. It's just one person's view, of course.

http://markhumphrys.com/iran.html


Personal statement here:

http://www.markhumphrys.com/

Personally I wouldn't touch Cat Stevens with a barge pole ("creepy" is a good word to use) and I am quite sure he'd hate me rolleyes.gif I think I still have, somewhere, Cat Stevens Greatest hits from back in the 70s ... though I didn't buy it myself. We listened to it, there were some pretty good songs on it, but I wasn't interested enough to get any full LPs of his. It was just a case of being seen to be up to date with being trendy with music more than anything else laugh.gif That is something I couldn't give a rat's about these days.

I trust that you jest about Isaak putting a duet with this man on a record? unsure.gif blink.gif

Personally, I have liked Cat Stevens as a performer. His religion is his business.

If Chris chooses to record a song with him, and put it on an album, then I will buy the album.
c'estmoiQTpie
While Cat is not a personal fave of mine (neither is anyone he has interviewed so far, actually) I enjoy watching them being interviewed. Esp. by Mr. Isaak. You never know what someone will say that will ring true or interest you and maybe open up a whole new path (books, music, ideas_) to explore.
bonoist
I think this is indicative of Chris' character. As someone who has been interviewed hundreds of times, Chris knows how stories can get taken out of context and out of proportion. I think he wanted to interview someone whose music meant a lot to him and was willing to uncover the real person, rather than rely on hearsay and ugly rumors. Again, Chris proves to be a stand up guy.
kazz227
QUOTE (bonoist @ Apr 12 2009, 11:33 AM) *
I think this is indicative of Chris' character.... I think he wanted to interview someone whose music meant a lot to him and was willing to uncover the real person, rather than rely on hearsay and ugly rumors. Again, Chris proves to be a stand up guy.

You bet he does, bonoist. wink.gif

I am so glad that Chris doesn't let a person's beliefs get in the way of the music. And that Chris' respect of the man's talent meant that he had to interview this man.

Chris chose to 'Live Boldly' on this one. And his admiration won the contest with should I/shouldn't I? stuff, and what it might/might not mean to ratings. If people are put out or put off or perplexed that is nothing to do with Chris' wish to interview a performer he admires and has admired for a long time. Good on Chris for going his own way, and choosing to interview the guests he wants to interview. Afterall, the show bares his name.

The 'flick the channel button' is available for the easily offended. huh.gif
stuff & nonsense
QUOTE (kazz227 @ Apr 12 2009, 05:02 PM) *
You bet he does, bonoist. wink.gif

I am so glad that Chris doesn't let a person's beliefs get in the way of the music. And that Chris' respect of the man's talent meant that he had to interview this man.

Chris chose to 'Live Boldly' on this one. And his admiration won the contest with should I/shouldn't I? stuff, and what it might/might not mean to ratings. If people are put out or put off or perplexed that is nothing to do with Chris' wish to interview a performer he admires and has admired for a long time. Good on Chris for going his own way, and choosing to interview the guests he wants to interview. Afterall, the show bares his name.

The 'flick the channel button' is available for the easily offended. huh.gif


You couldn't find anybody less easily offended than me and I find Cat Stevens offensive. To each their own. I don't need to flick the channel, we don't have Foxtel any more and I am sure the lovely people that send me stuff (they know who they are) will know not to bother this time around! I am sure Cat Stevens is very grateful that someone was prepared to give him some air time, be nice to him and not ask him any awkward questions. He has stuff to promote smile.gif I just hope that this plug for someone I don't care for AT ALL doesn't come back to bite Chris on his bare bum. As you say, the show bears his name. Let's just say I am not impressed and I do realise that nobody gives a stuff what I think.

Imagine ... John Lennon (I'm not a huge fan but this song came into my mind).

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one



chrisandkenneysgirl
I personally can not wait to see two of my favorite singers together to chat about what the show is all about and that is music and learning about an artisits life C&Ksgirl Kerri
kazz227
QUOTE (chrisandkenneysgirl @ Apr 13 2009, 05:17 AM) *
I personally can not wait to see two of my favorite singers together to chat about what the show is all about and that is music and learning about an artisits life C&Ksgirl Kerri

I'll be watching too when it is available to download.

So, for me nothing will be biting Chris on the bum.

Imagine that! huh.gif
RoadRunner
Quick question. I'm watching some of this show on YouTube--Is that one of Ricky Nelson's sons playing the guitar with Yusuf? I haven't watched the whole thing yet so not even sure if they introduce the other musicians--and it hasn't been mentioned on the boards--so maybe I am wrong-- but it looks a lot like he is a member of the Nelson family, however, I am also watching this on a very small screen.

Thanks.
LuvTheSurf
Very good eye, RoadRunner! Yes, it's Gunnar Nelson. I was wondering if it was a Nelson son the whole time I was watching (I used to have a big crush on the Nelsons in the 80s). Chris mentions his name as the show ends. I thought it was very cool that Gunnar was there, considering what a big Ricky Nelson fan Chris is. smile.gif

QUOTE (RoadRunner @ Apr 13 2009, 04:59 AM) *
Quick question. I'm watching some of this show on YouTube--Is that one of Ricky Nelson's sons playing the guitar with Yusuf? I haven't watched the whole thing yet so not even sure if they introduce the other musicians--and it hasn't been mentioned on the boards--so maybe I am wrong-- but it looks a lot like he is a member of the Nelson family, however, I am also watching this on a very small screen.

Thanks.

RoadRunner
QUOTE (LuvTheSurf @ Apr 13 2009, 08:20 AM) *
Very good eye, RoadRunner! Yes, it's Gunnar Nelson. I was wondering if it was a Nelson son the whole time I was watching (I used to have a big crush on the Nelsons in the 80s). Chris mentions his name as the show ends. I thought it was very cool that Gunnar was there, considering what a big Ricky Nelson fan Chris is. smile.gif


Thanks LuvTheSurf. I remember they had a bit of success back in the 80's.
Super for him- wonder if the nelson's & cat Stevens( back in the day)were/are friends.
ForeverBlueKoolaid
QUOTE (stuff & nonsense @ Apr 10 2009, 03:55 AM) *
I think I'm old and ugly enough to decide these matters for myself and I will not get over Chris Isaak sucking up to Cat Stevens, thanks anyway.

Did Chris really write this?

Two thumbs down and if I had any more thumbs they'd be down too sad.gif


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-isaak/...o_b_185107.html



I'm sorry hunny but just because someone said something stupid, (and I know you'll elaborate to justify your comments) doesn't make him NOT a good artist.

It's just stupid.

It just annoys me.

stuff & nonsense
QUOTE (ForeverBlueKoolaid @ Apr 18 2009, 06:08 AM) *
I'm sorry hunny but just because someone said something stupid, (and I know you'll elaborate to justify your comments) doesn't make him NOT a good artist.

It's just stupid.

It just annoys me.


I never said that. Has anyone ever existed who hasn't said something stupid? You can either like or not like Mr. Stevens. I don't like. Fortunately I never really enjoyed his music that much back in the day so never had to make any hard decisions once he started going peculiar rolleyes.gif I did love Harold and Maude though ... Cat Stevens songs run right through it. Worth watching if you haven't already.

Just some general stuff here ...

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/artic...%20wife_1021946

YUSUF ISLAM - YUSUF ISLAM'S MOTHER CHOSE HIS WIFE

there are some photos with the missus ... I can just hear my dear Granny asking "who got you ready?" smile.gif

Muslim musical icon YUSUF ISLAM asked his mother to choose his wife, because he couldn't decide who to spend the rest of his life with. Islam - who changed his name from CAT STEVENS and walked away from music when he converted to Islam in 1978 - denies having an arranged marriage. But the singer admits his mother helped him choose wife FAUZIA MUBARAK ALI in 1979. The 58-year-old says, "People think it was arranged because my mother was involved. But I was thinking of marrying one of two girls I was dating. I brought each to my mother at different times and asked which she thought I should marry. It was her choice. "Of course, it was mine as well, but I gave my mother the option to be part of that decision."

13/02/2007 17:56


Do Yusuf Islam’s Daughters Wear The Veil?

My four daughters all follow the basic wearing of clothes which modestly cover their God-given beauty. They’re extremely well educated; they do not cover their faces and interact perfectly well with friends and society.

The beautifully modest expression of Islamic dress is one of the things which attracted me to my wife in the first place. She too does not veil her face but adopts the normal traditional approach to covering her hair in public and for places and times of worship. My daughters all followed her example.

Indeed, my wife was a teacher of dress and fashion design (you’d be surprised to know what these ladies wear when in ladies-only company!) The restriction to see a woman’s beauty and form is only for males who are not closely related. Uncles, sons, nephews etc. all are accepted as close family and there is no restriction with them.

The styles of dress and covering adopted by men and women in various parts of the world may differ; African dress style is different from Asian and Arabian, for instance. The basic reason for the Divine guideline of dress is to preserve the love and affection of husbands and wives within the privacy of the family; and to maintain a high level of dignity and respect for the opposite sex.

I also believe that the mode of dress should not make people’s heads turn. The idea of wearing something that identifies oneself as ultra-liberal or ultra-religious, could be taken as immoderate, which is not what I consider to be the spirit of what God prefers. However, there is a balance which must be maintained. There is a saying that ‘God is beautiful, and He loves beauty’. Some may say that modesty itself is an expression of true, inner beauty, and modesty is linked to faith

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=...sa%3DN%26um%3D1


Wife, one daughter (wearing nice tablecloths) and granddaughter who is still allowed to be a little girl for a while longer.

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/lISGo4dvXDS...G3P/Yusuf+Islam

his son doesn't have to wear a tablecloth

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=...sa%3DN%26um%3D1



http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=...sa%3DN%26um%3D1

unsure.gif



(Of course, male family members are all completely trustworthy around women ... right???)

"Goodnight, thank you, and may your god go with you". You too, Dave.
filly
QUOTE (stuff & nonsense @ Apr 10 2009, 10:14 PM) *
Plenty of reading here, just for starters, if anyone is interested enough. It's just one person's view, of course.

http://markhumphrys.com/iran.html


Personal statement here:

http://www.markhumphrys.com/

Personally I wouldn't touch Cat Stevens with a barge pole ("creepy" is a good word to use) and I am quite sure he'd hate me rolleyes.gif I think I still have, somewhere, Cat Stevens Greatest hits from back in the 70s ... though I didn't buy it myself. We listened to it, there were some pretty good songs on it, but I wasn't interested enough to get any full LPs of his. It was just a case of being seen to be up to date with being trendy with music more than anything else laugh.gif That is something I couldn't give a rat's about these days.

I trust that you jest about Isaak putting a duet with this man on a record? unsure.gif blink.gif

I think that Cat Stevens is a genius and much more talented than Isaak. It seems like some people here have a lot of prejudices against Muslims. Perhaps you are influenced by the western media which likes to paint Muslims as being evil. Some of the nicest people that I know are Muslims.

The problem is not that Islam breeds violence and crime but polygamy. According to Psychology Today, countries in the Middle East and Africa where polygamy is legal are the most violent in the world. In those countries, because men can have many wives, there is a shortage of women. As a result, there will be some men who will never get married if they are too poor to afford a wife. Feeling like they have no future, these poor, single men will engage in more risky behaviour such as crime, terrorism, violence & rape. They will also become envious of men who have wives and will resort to rape if they can't have wives of their own. Women in Middle East must keep their heads covered as a protection against rape. However, the head covering doesn't protect them from rape since the envy of poor, unattached men from not having a wife is still present. This explains why the Middle East and Africa have such a high rate in rape and violence against women.

Another reason why the Aids epidemic is so high in Africa among women is that a lot of these women contracted Aids from rape.
junebug
QUOTE (wildflower @ Feb 24 2009, 07:02 PM) *
How do I get in touch with Dorothy? hee!



In getting back into his music career, Yusuf should change his name back to Cat Stevens!
wildflower
QUOTE (junebug @ May 7 2009, 10:37 PM) *
In getting back into his music career, Yusuf should change his name back to Cat Stevens!


I agree. Cat is such a cool name!
chrisrocks
Cat Stevens was quite the piano player. I loved him and thought he was gorgeous, as did my friends, when I was 15. We loved his music. Then one day he disappeared.

I don't know what to make of him nowadays. But I sure loved his older stuff.

Angiekay
QUOTE (stuff & nonsense @ Apr 17 2009, 07:37 PM) *
Wife, one daughter (wearing nice tablecloths) and granddaughter who is still allowed to be a little girl for a while longer.

his son doesn't have to wear a tablecloth



A "TABLECLOTH"...really?! Wow, what ignorance. rolleyes.gif Maybe you should learn about little more about what their culture really means and involves before shooting
your mouth off about something you know nothing about and don't understand. And if you really don't care about him, his way of life or his religion, just keep it shut in the first place.

I thought the show was fantastic and Cat sounds AMAZING! Good luck to him! At least he's been able to move beyond the predjudice and ignorance.

kazz227
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 18 2009, 12:02 PM) *


A "TABLECLOTH"...really?! Wow, what ignorance. rolleyes.gif Maybe you should learn about little more about what their culture really means and involves before shooting
your mouth off about something you know nothing about and don't understand. [b]And if you really don't care about him, his way of life or his religion, just keep it shut in the first place.

I thought the show was fantastic and Cat sounds AMAZING! Good luck to him! At least he's been able to move beyond the predjudice and ignorance.

[/b]

Now there's an idea. Love it.
stuff & nonsense
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 18 2009, 12:02 PM) *


A "TABLECLOTH"...really?! Wow, what ignorance. rolleyes.gif Maybe you should learn about little more about what their culture really means and involves before shooting
your mouth off about something you know nothing about and don't understand. And if you really don't care about him, his way of life or his religion, just keep it shut in the first place.

I thought the show was fantastic and Cat sounds AMAZING! Good luck to him! At least he's been able to move beyond the predjudice and ignorance.



What took you so long?

If you are going to slag me off (look it up) then at least check your spelling first.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prejudice

Do you ever look into the Blue Hotel these days?
guestagain
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 17 2009, 07:02 PM) *


A "TABLECLOTH"...really?! Wow, what ignorance. rolleyes.gif Maybe you should learn about little more about what their culture really means and involves before shooting
your mouth off about something you know nothing about and don't understand. And if you really don't care about him, his way of life or his religion, just keep it shut in the first place.

I thought the show was fantastic and Cat sounds AMAZING! Good luck to him! At least he's been able to move beyond the predjudice and ignorance.




So let's get this straight: Angie IS allowed to state her opinion, because...well, just because. But anyone who disagrees with her opinion is hereby ordered to "keep it shut".

Because...? She thinks she's queen of the world? She thinks she is God? Or is there some other reason? rolleyes.gif
Lacydebris
QUOTE (filly @ Apr 19 2009, 08:02 AM) *
I think that Cat Stevens is a genius and much more talented than Isaak. It seems like some people here have a lot of prejudices against Muslims. Perhaps you are influenced by the western media which likes to paint Muslims as being evil. Some of the nicest people that I know are Muslims.

The problem is not that Islam breeds violence and crime but polygamy. According to Psychology Today, countries in the Middle East and Africa where polygamy is legal are the most violent in the world. In those countries, because men can have many wives, there is a shortage of women. As a result, there will be some men who will never get married if they are too poor to afford a wife. Feeling like they have no future, these poor, single men will engage in more risky behaviour such as crime, terrorism, violence & rape. They will also become envious of men who have wives and will resort to rape if they can't have wives of their own. Women in Middle East must keep their heads covered as a protection against rape. However, the head covering doesn't protect them from rape since the envy of poor, unattached men from not having a wife is still present. This explains why the Middle East and Africa have such a high rate in rape and violence against women.

Another reason why the Aids epidemic is so high in Africa among women is that a lot of these women contracted Aids from rape.



Some of the more extreme sects of Mormons practice polygamy in this country. There are extremists and dangerous evil people in all parts of the world. Fortunately, they are the minority. Let's get over the hatred of any group because of different looks and practices.
Angiekay
QUOTE (guestagain @ May 18 2009, 06:25 PM) *
So let's get this straight: Angie IS allowed to state her opinion, because...well, just because. But anyone who disagrees with her opinion is hereby ordered to "keep it shut".

Because...? She thinks she's queen of the world? She thinks she is God? Or is there some other reason? rolleyes.gif


Because I can state my opinion without insulting a whole genre of people without knowing WTF I'm talking about. That's why.


Oh and all of the above. tongue.gif

Angiekay
QUOTE (stuff & nonsense @ May 18 2009, 06:02 PM) *
What took you so long?

If you are going to slag me off (look it up) then at least check your spelling first.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prejudice

Do you ever look into the Blue Hotel these days?



Ok, wait, You have NO freaking clue what you are yammering about throughout this entire thread and all you can come back with is I misspelled something?! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Guess I didn't have to point out your ignorance after all, you're doing just fine...carry on!







jac
For farks sake, no one mention Yasser Arafat's tea towel!! laugh.gif
guestagain
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 19 2009, 01:52 AM) *


Because I can state my opinion without insulting a whole genre of people without knowing WTF I'm talking about. That's why.


Oh and all of the above. tongue.gif



Please clarify...what was it you think that you are educating people about?

And what was it you think that Stuff knows nothing about? She stated her opinions. You spewed yours and according to you she should "shut it" because you disagree with her.

Are you actually disputing the radical practices aspects of Muslim religion? You are disputing the fact that Muslim women are required to wear heavy garments (like tablecloths) from head to toe and are not allowed to drive and are required to marry whomever their male relatives order them to and are required to undergo genital mutilation before puberty and are routinely murdered for defying their male relatives or divorcing their husbands? Really? Or, are you just disputing the fact that Stuff and most other people find these practices objectionable? Does that mean that you think these practices are fine and dandy as long as the women agree to being stoned, mutilated, raped and murdered? Or, under what circumstances do you find these practices to be acceptable?

Since you are so educated on this topic, please link us to your informational sources which disprove the occurrence of these practices. I promise I will faithfully read whatever educational information you are able to present on this topic.

Or, did you just mean to dispute the fact that Stuff and most other people find these practices to be extremely objectionable? (You know, going back to your statement of how you are allowed to post your opinion because you know more than Stuff does, etc...)
Angiekay
QUOTE (guestagain @ May 19 2009, 02:38 PM) *
Please clarify...what was it you think that you are educating people about?

And what was it you think that Stuff knows nothing about? She stated her opinions. You spewed yours and according to you she should "shut it" because you disagree with her.

Are you actually disputing the radical practices aspects of Muslim religion? You are disputing the fact that Muslim women are required to wear heavy garments (like tablecloths) from head to toe and are not allowed to drive and are required to marry whomever their male relatives order them to and are required to undergo genital mutilation before puberty and are routinely murdered for defying their male relatives or divorcing their husbands? Really? Or, are you just disputing the fact that Stuff and most other people find these practices objectionable? Does that mean that you think these practices are fine and dandy as long as the women agree to being stoned, mutilated, raped and murdered? Or, under what circumstances do you find these practices to be acceptable?

Since you are so educated on this topic, please link us to your informational sources which disprove the occurrence of these practices. I promise I will faithfully read whatever educational information you are able to present on this topic.

Or, did you just mean to dispute the fact that Stuff and most other people find these practices to be extremely objectionable? (You know, going back to your statement of how you are allowed to post your opinion because you know more than Stuff does, etc...)




Miss Snide, before you get on your high horse, Stuff can talk til she blue in the face if she could be civil and knowledgable, which she has been niether. She, much like YOU have just come on here being snide and snotty without provoiding any kind of debatable information other then showing your ignorance of another race. In other words, like I said, if you don't know what you are talking about or can't do it without making fun of other people and their beliefs....STFU!

She's made it quite clear she doesn't like Cat Stevens because of his religious views and by calling thier dress "a tablecloth" she is no better then someone making fun of her religious views, if she has any. How do *I* know what I am talking about? I have been subject to this kind of bullshit for my entire life. I am Lebanese and while I am Christian and don't agree with some of aspects of Muslim life, I know the ins and outs of people like Stuff who know absolutely nothing about Arabs or their culture yet continue to flap their gums like they think they do. I never disputed the FACTS of how Muslims live their lives...doesn't mean I find it appropiate to come on here and make fun of it and that IS what she is doing. She is not finding the more objectional things of their religion and civily disagreeing. She is making fun of it. I'm sure she wouldn't mind if someone made fun of something that was important to her. rolleyes.gif

Thank God Chris can obviously get past this kind of thing, even if some of his fans can't. I'm sure he'd be embarrassed to see your kind of response to someone he obviously holds in high regard.

chrisandkenneysgirl
You go Angie smile.gif I agree with you besides a persons religion is only a little part of who they are:) C&Ksgirl
guestagain
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 19 2009, 03:20 PM) *



Miss Snide, before you get on your high horse, Stuff can talk til she blue in the face if she could be civil and knowledgable, which she has been niether. She, much like YOU have just come on here being snide and snotty without provoiding any kind of debatable information other then showing your ignorance of another race. In other words, like I said, if you don't know what you are talking about or can't do it without making fun of other people and their beliefs....STFU!

She's made it quite clear she doesn't like Cat Stevens because of his religious views and by calling thier dress "a tablecloth" she is no better then someone making fun of her religious views, if she has any. How do *I* know what I am talking about? I have been subject to this kind of bullshit for my entire life. I am Lebanese and while I am Christian and don't agree with some of aspects of Muslim life, I know the ins and outs of people like Stuff who know absolutely nothing about Arabs or their culture yet continue to flap their gums like they think they do. I never disputed the FACTS of how Muslims live their lives...doesn't mean I find it appropiate to come on here and make fun of it and that IS what she is doing. She is not finding the more objectional things of their religion and civily disagreeing. She is making fun of it. I'm sure she wouldn't mind if someone made fun of something that was important to her. rolleyes.gif

Thank God Chris can obviously get past this kind of thing, even if some of his fans can't. I'm sure he'd be embarrassed to see your kind of response to someone he obviously holds in high regard.



Hmm, speaking of knowledgeable, I believe you meant NEITHER not niether, PROVIDING not provoiding, THEIR not thier, SUBJECTED not subject. And speaking of being civil, better move out of your glass trailer, princess. I'll save you the embarrassment and myself the time of proving you wrong by posting examples of your own snideness (just look back over this thread), but what this boils down to is, you are personally offended by Stuff's opinions. Boohoo.
Angiekay
QUOTE (guestagain @ May 19 2009, 10:24 PM) *
Hmm, speaking of knowledgeable, I believe you meant NEITHER not niether, PROVIDING not provoiding, THEIR not thier, SUBJECTED not subject. And speaking of being civil, better move out of your glass trailer, princess. I'll save you the embarrassment and myself the time of proving you wrong by posting examples of your own snideness (just look back over this thread), but what this boils down to is, you are personally offended by Stuff's opinions. Boohoo.



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Wow...why thank you captain obvious!! Of course I'm offended by her opinions, you twit, because she doesn't know what the f**k she is talking about! Are you reading this thread at all?! That's what it's about! LMAO!

If you guys worried half as much about what's going on in the world and getting your own heads out of your asses and less on spelling, I might give you some credibility.

I also don't give any credibility to anyone who has to shoot THEIR mouth off behind a "guest" label. rolleyes.gif


And that's MISS Princess to you.

guestagain
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 19 2009, 09:15 PM) *


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Wow...why thank you captain obvious!! Of course I'm offended by her opinions, you twit, because she doesn't know what the f**k she is talking about! Are you reading this thread at all?! That's what it's about! LMAO!

If you guys worried half as much about what's going on in the world and getting your own heads out of your asses and less on spelling, I might give you some credibility.

I also don't give any credibility to anyone who has to shoot THEIR mouth off behind a "guest" label. rolleyes.gif


And that's MISS Princess to you.



Yep, so much for your ridiculous claims of being civil and knowledgeable at all times. At least you aren't afraid to admit you're a dumb liar. Congratulations, it helps you loook slightly less stupid. But...you never clarified what it was you claimed she knew nothing about. Or tried to disprove anything she said.

And let's see your birth certificate, where it gives your full birth name as "Angie Kay". Post your SSN too, since you so enjoy proving your worth by revealing your "true" identity. (Now if only you'd do the same when you crash the old BH, you might really have something to brag about.)

Actually,it's Kunt Princess, but I was in a charitable mood.
Angiekay
QUOTE (guestagain @ May 20 2009, 12:45 AM) *
Yep, so much for your ridiculous claims of being civil and knowledgeable at all times. At least you aren't afraid to admit you're a dumb liar. Congratulations, it helps you loook slightly less stupid. But...you never clarified what it was you claimed she knew nothing about. Or tried to disprove anything she said.

And let's see your birth certificate, where it gives your full birth name as "Angie Kay". Post your SSN too, since you so enjoy proving your worth by revealing your "true" identity. (Now if only you'd do the same when you crash the old BH, you might really have something to brag about.)

Actually,it's Kunt Princess, but I was in a charitable mood.





Ah, yes, I remember you now, unfortunately. I see you still have nothing useful or productive to say or contribute besides hate. Sad really. Sorry, I can debate all day, but not with someone who is unarmed from the get go...and a coward to boot.

Cheryl L.
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 20 2009, 02:15 PM) *
..........I'm offended by her opinions, you twit, because she doesn't know what the f**k she is talking about!..........



Regardless of Stuff's opinions on this or any other topic - and whether you agree with them or not - she has every right to express them when, and wherever she chooses, Angie. Unlike you, I AM qualified to comment on her character because I know the lady personally in RL, and can tell you that you'd have to go a hell of a long way to find a better human being. We're poles apart politcally-speaking also, but at the end of the day who gives a shit? Life's too short and good friends too hard to find these days to let something as trivial as opinions on politics or rockstars (that's current ones, has-been ones, come-back ones, Islamic ones, or even pretty-boy, blue-eyed ones from Stockton) get in the way of a good friendship. Something else I know Stuff wouldn't do, and that's judge a person's entire character simply by a few words posted on an internet message forum.....I find it kind of ironic that that's the very thing you're doing Angie, while you accuse her of not knowing what she's talking about......
Cheryl L.
QUOTE (jac @ May 19 2009, 09:22 PM) *
For farks sake, no one mention Yasser Arafat's tea towel!! laugh.gif



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Angiekay
QUOTE (Cheryl L. @ May 20 2009, 01:37 AM) *
Regardless of Stuff's opinions on this or any other topic - and whether you agree with them or not - she has every right to express them when, and wherever she chooses, Angie. Unlike you, I AM qualified to comment on her character because I know the lady personally in RL, and can tell you that you'd have to go a hell of a long way to find a better human being. We're poles apart politcally-speaking also, but at the end of the day who gives a shit? Life's too short and good friends too hard to find these days to let something as trivial as opinions on politics or rockstars (that's current ones, has-been ones, come-back ones, Islamic ones, or even pretty-boy, blue-eyed ones from Stockton) get in the way of a good friendship. Something else I know Stuff wouldn't do, and that's judge a person's entire character simply by a few words posted on an internet message forum.....I find it kind of ironic that that's the very thing you're doing Angie, while you accuse her of not knowing what she's talking about......


I see...so what you are essentially telling me is...that because it's a free country and she can give an opinion even if tacky, ridiculing and uneducated she should just get away with it? Gotcha. So, when the time comes around that she insults something that pertains to YOU or anyone else on this board, we should "just let it pass" because it's her opinion? Her character and her opinion are two totally different things. She could be the pope, but if she comes on here talking out of her ass about something *I* can tell she knows nothing about because I HAVE LIVED IT, you can damn well bet I'm going to call her out.

Sorry, if the rest of you want to pussyfoot around that kind of thing because it doesn't rock the boat, you go right ahead. I'm calling a spade a spade. Your lives must be awfully vanilla cookie cutter.

senayr
ok girls, take a deep breath, two steps back and push away the keyboard.

Lets just agree to disagree and perhaps a Mod or Admin can lock the thread

We need to get back to talking about Mr Sparkly Pants laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
guestagain
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 19 2009, 11:34 PM) *




Ah, yes, I remember you now, unfortunately. I see you still have nothing useful or productive to say or contribute besides hate. Sad really. Sorry, I can debate all day, but not with someone who is unarmed from the get go...and a coward to boot.





Still waiting on your SSN Kunt Princess. What's wrong. you're too cowardly to post it?

Fine, i'll settle for your phone numer. Or your Myspace profile. Or Facebook page. Or real last name. Or driver's license number. Or mugshot. Or home address. Or work number. Or tax ID number. Really, I must know who I'm speaking to in order to take you seriously, and all I know is your CI board moniker. What's your middle name? Am I scaring you? Come on, show us your real identity. What's to be afraid of? Chicken! I dare you. Prove yourself.

And yes, Kunt princess, people ARE allowed to express opinions that YOU don't like. In America and even in Australia. Amazing, I know. All you've managed to prove is that you are pissed off, NOT that you are right or knowledgeable or any better than anyone. Just that you are pissed off.
guestagain
QUOTE (Angiekay @ May 19 2009, 11:45 PM) *


I see...so what you are essentially telling me is...that because it's a free country and she can give an opinion even if tacky, ridiculing and uneducated she should just get away with it? Gotcha. So, when the time comes around that she insults something that pertains to YOU or anyone else on this board, we should "just let it pass" because it's her opinion? Her character and her opinion are two totally different things. She could be the pope, but if she comes on here talking out of her ass about something *I* can tell she knows nothing about because I HAVE LIVED IT, you can damn well bet I'm going to call her out.

Sorry, if the rest of you want to pussyfoot around that kind of thing because it doesn't rock the boat, you go right ahead. I'm calling a spade a spade. Your lives must be awfully vanilla cookie cutter.




Ah, the dulcid tones of Angie KforKunt demonstrating her superior intelligence and unfailing civility. Sweet indeed.
kazz227
QUOTE (guestagain @ May 21 2009, 07:43 AM) *
Ah, the dulcid tones of Angie KforKunt demonstrating her superior intelligence and unfailing civility. Sweet indeed.

Ah, I think you mean 'dulcet tones'. But who am I to question your obvious 'superior intelligence'? rolleyes.gif As for your 'unfailing civility', well 'nuff' said. tongue.gif Your sentence said it all really. But your posts always do lean towards 'unfailing civility'. A true example for all for us, I guess 'Guestagain" NOT.

Oh, for the record - and I am guessing you were aiming for alliteration here - it is universally known as the 'C' Word. Guestagain, trying too hard and looking ignorant again. Wouldn't mistake you for intelligent or civil or sweet though, would we? huh.gif
guestagain
QUOTE (kazz227 @ May 21 2009, 02:14 AM) *
Ah, I think you mean 'dulcet tones'. But who am I to question your obvious 'superior intelligence'? rolleyes.gif As for your 'unfailing civility', well 'nuff' said. tongue.gif Your sentence said it all really. But your posts always do lean towards 'unfailing civility'. A true example for all for us, I guess 'Guestagain" NOT.

Oh, for the record - and I am guessing you were aiming for alliteration here - it is universally known as the 'C' Word. Guestagain, trying too hard and looking ignorant again. Wouldn't mistake you for intelligent or civil or sweet though, would we? huh.gif



LOL, are you and Chery's Crazy the Dim Siamese twins, or do you just share the brain cell? If you were able to follow a thread, you'd see that I was referring to Angie <b>K for K-U-N-T </b>'s repeated claim of unfailing civility, and calling her on the obvious fact that she's as rude a dumb cunt as many others who post here, despite her delusions of grandeur and claims to the contrary. Thanks for helping to underscore my point though.
kazz227
QUOTE (guestagain @ May 22 2009, 04:18 AM) *
LOL, are you and Chery's Crazy the Dim Siamese twins, or do you just share the brain cell? If you were able to follow a thread, you'd see that I was referring to Angie <b>K for K-U-N-T </b>'s repeated claim of unfailing civility, and calling her on the obvious fact that she's as rude a dumb cunt as many others who post here, despite her delusions of grandeur and claims to the contrary. Thanks for helping to underscore my point though.

Ah, dim, rude, dumb....YOU shouldn't attempt to bring attention to your obvious 'qualities' by trying to attribute them to others. blink.gif

If you could follow a thread, you'd have read that I called you on your poor attempt at alliteration. Yes, I did get why you added the "K". A dumb, simple, pathetic attempt at alliteration on your part. I do hope my 'dulcid tones' get the point across this time. It might help if you sound out the big words. tongue.gif
guestagain
QUOTE (kazz227 @ May 21 2009, 02:39 PM) *
Ah, dim, rude, dumb....YOU shouldn't attempt to bring attention to your obvious 'qualities' by trying to attribute them to others. blink.gif

If you could follow a thread, you'd have read that I called you on your poor attempt at alliteration. Yes, I did get why you added the "K". A dumb, simple, pathetic attempt at alliteration on your part. I do hope my 'dulcid tones' get the point across this time. It might help if you sound out the big words. tongue.gif


I tell you what. You stop talking out of your ass, and you may sound a bit more like someone worth listening to. Try it if you can, see if ir works.
kazz227
QUOTE (guestagain @ May 22 2009, 02:33 PM) *
I tell you what. You stop talking out of your ass, and you may sound a bit more like someone worth listening to. Try it if you can, see if ir works.

ROTFLMAO! YOU are SO obviously 'listening' to what I am writing!!!!!!. How novel, and clever of you. I must be worth a good listen. Or is it that I am worth a good read? laugh.gif YOU keep replying!

Stop ranting at everyone out of your arse. Yes, you are a huge arse. Wait, here is a better idea for you. Why don't you take your clever rants, amazing wit, superiority complex and 'dulcid tones' elsewhere. blink.gif

Ta, ta.....sunshine.
guestagain
QUOTE (kazz227 @ May 22 2009, 03:40 AM) *
ROTFLMAO! YOU are SO obviously 'listening' to what I am writing!!!!!!. How novel, and clever of you. I must be worth a good listen. Or is it that I am worth a good read? laugh.gif YOU keep replying!

Stop ranting at everyone out of your arse. Yes, you are a huge arse. Wait, here is a better idea for you. Why don't you take your clever rants, amazing wit, superiority complex and 'dulcid tones' elsewhere. blink.gif

Ta, ta.....sunshine.


Well, I'd say don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, but we know that nothing has poked you there since at least 1973, so I'd hate to deprive you of your moment of fun. Have a field day, Stench.
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